Opening
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:00): You're VP of product at Facebook. You're director at eBay and PayPal. You're on the board of Intuit. You've been the CEO of Ancestry now for the past three and a half years. This is a career path that a lot of people dream of. Deb Liu (00:00:11): Some of the best PMs I have ever worked with are terrible PMs for their career. They just drift from job to job. "Hey, should I take this role or this role? How do I think about this?...
The opener starts with biography before advice. That order makes the guest legible as a person before the listener extracts tactics.
Low-ego framing
title: "How to own your career growth and become a powerful product leader | Deb Liu, Ancestry (ex-Facebook, PayPal)" date: "2022-08-04" type: "podcast" guest: "Deb Liu"...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
That's amazing. Deb, this was amazing. I'm so happy we made time for this. Thank you so much for coming on. Two final questions. Where can folks find you if they want to reach out, maybe read about...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Name the work
awesome post called You Are in Control of Your Career. And the argument in your post is you should PM your career the way you PM your product. So there's a lot of synergy here. So maybe just diving into...
Names a concrete strength, artifact, or contribution instead of offering generic praise.
Return warmth
know that you don't get a lot of resources, you get a lot of attention. And I appreciated that because I think I work best when people aren't... There is not a lot of scrutiny. I think sometimes large...
Matches the guest's warmth and keeps the social temperature generous.
Accept praise cleanly
Deb Liu (01:10:59): Thank you so much, Lenny. It's great. Lenny...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.