Dmitry Zlokazov

How Revolut trains world-class product managers: The “local CEO” model, raw intellect over experience, and a cultural obsession with building wow products | Dmitry Zlokazov (Head of Product)

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Opening
Dmitry Zlokazov (00:00:00): Everyone is striving for talented, skillful, smart people. Revolut values way more raw intellect and this unquenched hunger to build things rather than experience. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:12): I hear one of the ways you approach early products differently is you guys invest a lot in actually making it good. Dmitry Zlokazov (00:00:18): It's not getting traction. Is it because the underlying idea is wrong? Or maybe your product just sucks?...

The opener starts with biography before advice. That order makes the guest legible as a person before the listener extracts tactics.

Low-ego framing
just sucks? By forcing everyone to build a product that people will love, we kind of cut out this part of uncertainty. We can cut down the product in terms of functionality to just most critical...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Accept praise cleanly
to join Revolut that want to experience this and accelerate their career. So thank you for being here. Two final questions. Where can folks find you if they want to reach out and how can listeners be...

Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.

Return warmth
Build by Tony Fadell. I was really inspired by this one, especially given how I appreciate how it's not easy to build hardware and what Tony was describing there is just super exciting and inspiring. And also...

Matches the guest's warmth and keeps the social temperature generous.

Low-ego framing
are there roughly? I think the last valuation something around 60 billion. I don't know if you can even comment on that, but just what are some numbers real quick for people to understand the scale of the...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Ending
all the things you guys have figured out. I think this is going to help a lot of different companies level up the way they think about product and for people to join Revolut that want to experience this and accelerate their career. So thank you for being here. Two final questions. Where can folks find you if they want to reach out and how can listeners be useful to you?...

The ending stays curious after the formal conversation is almost done.