Opening
Jenny Wen (00:00:00): This design process that designers have been taught, we sort of treat it as gospel. That's basically dead. You as a designer actually do not have the time to make these beautiful mocks anymore. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:10): A big part of the design role now is helping engineers and teams execute, not just telling them, "Here's the design." Jenny Wen (00:00:15): A few years ago, 60 to 70% of it was mocking and prototyping, but now I feel the mocking up part of it is 30 to 40%....
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Low-ego framing
title: "Jenny Wen" date: "2026-03-01" type: "podcast" guest: "Jenny Wen" channel: "Lenny's Podcast" description: "It's not just...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
changing for designers. It is pretty wild and extremely interesting. A huge thank you to Noah Levin and Emily Lynn Hasham for suggesting topics and questions for this conversation. Don't forget to check...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Low-ego framing
kay, this is not going to happen at Salesforce. This is not going to happen at, I don't know, ServiceNow, wherever." So I guess, do you feel like this is where all teams are heading? Is it mostly AI, bleeding...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
Lenny Rachitsky (01:16:53): Jenny, thank you so much for being here. Jenny Wen (01:16:55): Yeah, of course. It was great chatting Lenny. Lenny Rachitsky...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ending
Lenny Rachitsky (01:16:20): So cool. Jenny Wen (01:16:21): Yeah. Lenny Rachitsky (01:16:22): Jenny, this was awesome. What a time to be alive. Jenny Wen (01:16:25): What a time. Lenny Rachitsky (01:16:27): Two final questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to reach out and how can listeners be useful to you? Jenny Wen (01:16:31): Yeah, I'm on Twitter/X is what we're calling it these days. It's @jenny_1. That's probably the best place, not really on LinkedIn as much, so that's the best place....
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