Opening
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:00): If you're really open and open source, sometimes you have to stand up the bullies and you have to fight to protect your open source ideals. Speaker 1 (00:00:05): Please put your hands together for Matt Mullenweg. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:08): Matt Mullenweg has been making some questionable moves recently. There's a lot going on with Matt and WordPress these days. 20+ years of good sentiment burned in days....
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Low-ego framing
villain, why he’s taking a stand, and the future of open source | Matt Mullenweg (founder and CEO, Automattic)" date: "2025-03-02" type: "podcast" guest: "Matt Mullenweg" channel: "Lenny's Podcast"...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
Christina Cacioppo (00:05:10): Thank you. Lenny Rachitsky (00:05:14): Matt, thank you so much for being here. Welcome to the podcast. Matt Mullenweg...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Low-ego framing
that we're all familiar with. It's kind of the city of the future and I don't know what it is in the water from the '60s until now, cultural innovations, things that happen and influenced the whole...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
t. If you made it this far into the podcast, you should definitely apply. Matt, thank you. Thank you for being here. Bye, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. If you found this valuable, you can...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ending
I recommend your podcast and newsletter to a lot of my colleagues. And so, if you're someone who loves this kind of stuff, I think there's a big opportunity at Automattic to have an impact on these things. Lenny Rachitsky (01:33:11): What roles are you hiring for most and where do people find these roles? Matt Mullenweg (01:33:15): Automattic.com, A-U-T-O-M-A-T-T-I-C. There's a Work with Us page. You can kind of see how we work. We're fully distributed and can manage that forever. We sort of started that....
The ending makes gratitude concrete, which turns warmth into checkable behavior.