Opening
Sam Schillace (00:00:00): We tend to undervalue the things we're good at. We tend to think work has to be unpleasant. And so if something is easy and fun, we don't tend to think it's valuable. So I think lots of people gravitate in this direction of like, let's go do unpleasant things and grind our way through the career because that's the way to make it. But the reality is you should go do the thing that you feel guilty to get paid for, if there's a thing like that, and do the hell out of it, right?...
The opener starts with biography before advice. That order makes the guest legible as a person before the listener extracts tactics.
Accept praise cleanly
Sam Schillace (00:03:51): Thank you. Happy to be here. Lenny (00:03:53): A really fun fact about you is that apparently you have the very first...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Low-ego framing
fact about you is that apparently you have the very first Google Doc file. I don't know what you call it. The very first Google Doc document saved somewhere from before even Google Docs was a thing. And...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
Lenny (01:27:21): Sam, thank you so much for being here. Sam Schillace (01:27:23): My pleasure. Lenny (01:27:24): Bye, everyone. Thank you so...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ending
I'm curious about that. I mean, and interesting ideas. Anything surprising that seems that you'd like to have somebody pay attention to. I entertain weird ideas all the time. I do my best to entertain weird ideas and live what I preach. So if you think you have something that's really resonating that you think you want to have somebody pay attention to, you can connect me. I'll take a look at it, I'll do my best. I won't look at stuff that's incremental and boring. It has to be actually interesting and disruptive....
The ending reorients from guest intimacy to listener usefulness.